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April 30, 2005
Rude Interviewers
A lot of the discussion around the unemployment of fresh graduates centers around their inability to speak English or to market themselves correctly.
Is this always right?
What happened to job applicants in an interview situation?
Ee Fei sent me an interesting description of one of her interview experiences. Read on and tell me what you think.
"It's part of their (interviewers) job to help keep the interviewee at ease, so that they can see the real person on the other side of the table, not merely but intimidating, passing rude and shocking comments and asking questions with a demeaning intention.(...)
COMPANY shocked me by asking me to talk about anything. Just about
anything. No clues, no indication or any sort. If the company wants to
see how well one talks (non-technically) then, the company might
consider having draw cards that has a random topic which the candidate
has to talk about for 15-30 minutes. It's way fucking better to know
beforehand that the topic is going to be random rather than to be
shocked when asked rudely to speak, because either way, the
interviewee will loose, as if they pick a simple topic like
i. Fast food
ii. Hair care
iii. Watch
iv. PunctualityThe interviewer will still not be satisfied because they might not be
interested in what the interviewee has to say."
Did this only happen to her, or are there other, similar stories out there?
Posted by Andreas at April 30, 2005 07:10 PM
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Kim! gagagaga I might just really start thinking about what to do after graduation. I think interviewee should be prepared for the worst (so far):
1. Don't talk about technical stuffs, already told as sitting down.
2. Don't ask/talk about the job opportunities at the company, they came here to ONLY hear you talk, not being questioned. Seee the jsutification is that the interview is only about YOU and not THE COMPANY. Weird for me, but it's good stuffs. Now, I need to think random and talk like about outer space exploration.
3. When asking a question, very important is that to expect the answer not answered, or getting answered by saying it's not important.
4. When asked about relocation, be prepared to be discriminated of where you came from, where you grow up. Pre-assumption that all KL girls are shoppers, party-goers and wild vyxens and not suitable for the boring industrial life somewhere away from town, and worst away from KL.
It's great stuffs, because I just found out that being from KL could also be a demerit point :)
Just my 2 cents.
Agreed with Strizzt about the "sit-and-chat". All the interviews(except for that one) I've attmped, they are s-n-c. :) They were all great, satisfying attempts. Though one might not get the job, it doesn't mess up your day :) That's why it's bitter to have tasted a sour group.
Always takes one rotten egg to spoilt the whole "egg-is-good-for-health" concept.
Posted by: EF at May 1, 2005 06:08 PM
I've been to four interviews for my internship placement last year. I didn't have any problems with them, except for one company - the interviewer behaved like a typical Chinaman - he was rude and seem to regard himself very highly.
Just last week, I went to two interviews for my first job in the real working world (most shy away at the mere words of 'fresh graduate', though...).
All the interview sessions I have been to were pretty much the sit-down-and-chat type (not too strict, but still with a certain degree of formality). But there was always a topic of conversation, which is mostly in regards to the job position being applied.
Posted by: Strizzt at May 1, 2005 12:06 PM
I think all of you are right. It would be great to have companies which understand job applicants a lot. Not all do, and some have their own style in testing applicants. If the culture of the company is such, than may be it was good that Ee Fei didn't get the job in the first place. There are other companies. However, I think that there are ways in dealing with such interviews as well. One thing learnt should be that this is possible and how do you prepare for such situation the next time around! Another thing is that all interviews are different. Some go great, some go bad. Stay in a distance, don't let it catch you too much. Learn from it, that is the main message.
Posted by: Andreas at May 1, 2005 10:59 AM
i think the most important thing about interviews is not to be intimidated. just talk to the interviewers as though they're friends. random topics? i think it's a trick question. surely they wanna know why u want the job, why u think you're fit for the job, you could even ask them questions while at it...u know, stuff that shows u could handle the potential work. but if ur gonna start talking about your vege aspirations.....lol. dont think that was rudeness. i think it's a great way to flaunt your capabilities.
Posted by: kimberlycun at May 1, 2005 07:43 AM
I'll just rent a plot of land on camerons, decide on a crop and be a multimulionaire in rupiahs.
Coming back into topic, "stress interview" is okie. SO long as it starts well. No introduction kinda sucks. I'm generally comfotable talking with strangers, I'm just very non-customer-service-like. I'd rather talk to the tomatoes now.
Posted by: EF at May 1, 2005 04:40 AM
I'm glad you're taking this well. (I think! *grin*)
You 'know' that those nearer the top are rude. Given what you already know, what do you do? Do you deal with the problem with a measured response, or do you let the problem deal with you?
Me? I'd go with the first one.
Maybe you don't think stress testing should be a criteria in the job you're interested in. But the prospective employer might not think the same way. The interviewee can be very talented, but if the company doesn't 'like' him/her, then he/she isn't hired.
I'm sure you'll agree that may not be fair, but that's the real world, and some of us have to 'adjust'.
Even so, I hope you'll find a job with kindly old padrones to act as your mentors. Sadly, in my own line of work, such a thing is a dream.
Good luck to you in your search, and that's a sincere wish.
Cheers.
Posted by: Solb1 Kenobi at May 1, 2005 01:28 AM
Solb1, thank you so such great advice.
So let's come back to what does an interviewer do? What's the interviewer's job, really?
Have a nice road trip to the city?
Spent a night at the hotel?
Enjoy the food allowance?
Rush through interviews so that they can go shopping/smoke earlier?
Seems like I'm always clueless of the whacky real world. I'm too busy designing reactors in between going to dinners, concerts and other functions.
Why are those nearer to the top rude? They have no personality or that is thier personality? They have no names?
Or was that part of thier "stress interview" that I'm not aware of.
Assuming the problem was the interviewee, would it help to have an option to go through or pass on a "stress interview"?
(If I knew it was a "stress interview" I would forego a chance to get pissed. I absolutely don't like loosing. Who cares?)
Posted by: EF at April 30, 2005 09:50 PM
Ee Fei said, "It's part of their (interviewers) job to help keep the interviewee at ease, so that they can see the real person on the other side of the table"
She's not in any position to tell the intervewers what *their* job should be. Making things easy for her is not the company's job. The interviewers (i.e. the company) are only interested in what *she* can do for the company, and not the other way around.
The interviewers were right to put her on the spot; that's one way to find out what she'd do when the clock is ticking; one way to know what she can do when push comes to shove.
If she's gonna be 'shocked' every time she's put on the spot like that, she's gonna be disappointed for a long time. She'll have to get over it soon.
If the problem really is "rude interviewers," then such people are found out usually rather quickly by the company itself, and all will be right again in the universe (LOL). But, overall, I don't believe interviewers are inherent bast*rds (my opinion).
Posted by: Solb1 Kenobi at April 30, 2005 08:17 PM